I've been into the chopper scene now for about 6 years. I have had over 15 at one point but am now selling a few to pay for my new bond bug. Ill try to put some pics up of my collection if I work out how to. Considering the bikes are for kids they ride really nice. 20 of us did 120miles on them over to Amsterdam last year.
Chopper also a Tom Karen design (although some Raleigh insiders dispute this, Tom has the evidence).
It was here: tomkarendesigner.co.uk/ that I read the origins of what I believe to be the Chopper design claim dispute you mention.
In a nutshell, the long-established Schwinn cycle company in the US had launched a chopper-style bicycle for children to mimic the custom chopper motorcycles that were becoming well known in the USA (think Easy Rider movie, 1970s, California Dreamin', Ed Roth custom cars like the Munsters car etc) and Raleigh in the UK said, we ought to have a bike like that. So they got .... well, let Tom tell it in his own words:
Raleigh’s Marketing Director Peter Seels came to see me at Ogle in 1968. He explained that the US company Schwinn were producing a rugged bicycle for kids that was a great success. Raleigh wanted to capture a share of that market but with a design that had a distinct flavour of its own. I remember thinking during the meeting that our design would have a big wheel at the back like a Formula 1 car or dragster. We produced several illustrations of a design using straight tubes unlike the Schwinn that used very curvaceous ones. Peter presented them to his board and came back with the message that their Engineering Director, Alan Oakley, had reservations about a bicycle with different wheel sizes going down the production line. I was puzzled by this and explained I had no better answers to offer. Peter then had the design accepted together with the other features that gave the Chopper its special appeal: the car like gear shift, the L-shaped saddle with the (make believe) springs and the mudguards lifted clear of the wheels. I felt the rear wheel looked a bit bare, so we furnished it with what looked like disc brakes. Ogle produced all the drawings for the final design and made prototype components. Oakley I later found had produced a prototype named 'Rodeo' that had not found favour with Raleigh management and I was surprised when he was given credit for the Chopper design with no mention of our involvement. The Chopper was a great success and when Peter Seels had plans to take Raleigh into the baby market he came to Ogle for the design of prams, ride on toys and a swing.
If you look at Tom's site you'll see that the Raleigh Rodeo design was little more than a rip-off of the Schwinn, whilst Tom's design was far more radical. Alan Oakley may not unreasonably have felt a tad miffed that his design was relegated for Tom's, but it is only my own speculation that this might be the source of any 'dissent' from Raleigh's staff.
bugberk: Just put the engine/box into my rolling chassis, and the prop shaft seems to be about 3" short, Have I been given the wrong one? this a total rebuild from a pile of bits.
Dec 16, 2020 13:34:31 GMT
goodtimes: thank you for the drawings! very helpful.
Dec 17, 2020 17:31:00 GMT
vannin: bugberk what is the length of your propshaft you are fitting ? you'll get more replies if you ask on the main forum
Dec 30, 2020 15:30:34 GMT
rooster: can any one tell me what car the canopy lock came of ? ive been told a triumph
Jan 18, 2021 15:23:26 GMT
rogeru7: Hi the basic lock is off a Triumph but it will then need a major mod to be used on the Bug canopy unless you have access to a lathe and a mill it’s not an easy mod
Jan 18, 2021 20:15:56 GMT
Steve: Hi can anyone tell what is the tallest you can be to drive a bond Bug
Feb 25, 2021 13:37:55 GMT
vannin: hi Steve, is this for you and if so how tall are you ? more interest and responses if you use the main forum !
Feb 25, 2021 14:51:06 GMT
steve: i'm 6ft 4in am i too big to fit? . im not good with computers, cant seem to get on other thread, sorry
Feb 26, 2021 10:59:28 GMT
mike: I have 2 bond bugs 1 almost restored just waiting on new upholstery and the other is complete runs sweet and original if Warren is still looking for one Cheers
Apr 11, 2021 12:35:02 GMT
Jon T: Hi all, I am looking to purchase a bug, dont mind if needs some work, anyone point me in right direction. thanks<
Apr 20, 2021 10:52:19 GMT
mysticmick: hi all . i recently purchased a bug . my dream car for restoration . i have the vin plate . with chassis number and engine number . but sadly no reg number . is there any way of finding out the original reg so i could apply for the v5 .. thanks in advance
May 8, 2021 16:20:42 GMT
cdb15: To Mystic Mick: contact HPI and ask if they will do a VIN-only check. Usually if you have the registration it's £19 or so, but may be different from the VIN. Or there is a DVLA procedure using form V62 - check out the government web site for the procedure.
May 17, 2021 20:15:30 GMT
allan: Does anyone know what thread and diameter of the water temp &oil pressure senders on my 700e ,bug no 50
Jul 5, 2021 21:20:32 GMT
Stiffy: Allan just seen your question. Your better of asking a question on the main site as no one seems to respond to the shout box. cheers stiffy.
Jul 11, 2021 19:57:31 GMT
joegab59: cant seem to get my reg number into the bug gallery, simple steps anyone ?
Jul 15, 2021 14:25:51 GMT