Hi Dean my Bug was painted in two pack January this year, I removed all the paint and completed most of the body repairs leaving the body shop to finish off, the body was mounted on a wooden moveable frame, I paid £2000 but had quotes up to £4300 regards Roger
What is the view on a fair price for a paint job on a Bug inside and out.
I have had 3 massively varying quotes.
I have done a lot of the prep work on it like removing the transfers and most of the interior, plus the hood is already primed.
They go from £900 to £2500. The £2500 one is just taking the mick.
I don't think the £2500 quote is a joke, I paid £3500 for MB61 to be resprayed by a Scimitar specialist who is well respected in club circles and that was a discounted price. I know others have paid up to around £8000, and firms who do high-end GRP cars like Lotus and other esoterica charge up to £20,000.
Now the Bug is a small car, but it's very fiddly from a prep point of view, and there can be a lot of labour-intensive work to do, especially if you're looking at the inside as well. In the spraying world it's more true than most areas that you tend to get what you pay for. If you want a quality job that can stand out in all weathers for years on end then expect to pay well into 4 figures. If you just want to tart the car up enough to make it look presentable on eBay then a few hundred will do the job, and may be the most appropriate option.
If you doubt the amount of prep work involved and the number of coats you might need for a good finish, then talk to someone who has done the job themselves and knows what it takes - there's one member on here that immediately springs to mind, but I don't want to 'volunteer' him without his permission.
Dean I would agree with the above about getting what you pay for. I painted mine myself and it is a lot of work to do for such a small car. No I am not offering to paint yours. I would question the quality and extent of the work you are getting for £900. £2500 might be more than you need to pay, but if you do should be a really good job.fferent type of car I would also be interested in who you have gone to in this part of the world, I need to get my 205 painted some time soon, different type of car, The only place that has been recomended to me is Redland Bodyworks,and the mate of a neighbour who has only just started out. Ady
good luck trying to get a classic car resprayed as it's a minefield what a lot of paint sprayers think is even an okay finish is anything but and is quite often a joke, good luck finding one i fear you will need it
good luck trying to get a classic car resprayed as it's a minefield
This is very true, but we can still give some pointers that might help.
First, with ref to Ady's remark about "a different type of car", I think you need to identify what your chosen sprayer specialises in. Metal cars are of course quite widespread for steel bodies, but aluminium is a different thing altogether. Most 'metal' sprayers will also do modern plastics, such as the huge bumpers and some body/door panels found on cars of the past 10-20 years or so. But this is different again from GRP, and especially the 40-year old GRP technology used in Bug bodies. So, you need a sprayer familiar with your car body material.
Now there are larger firms who reckon to cover such a wide range of classic cars they are experienced in all types of materials. One such literally up the road from me is The Village Garage, which despite the name is a massive operation and they have a huge range of restos and repairs in, it's a joy just to walk past their work lot and admire the ever-changing stock in trade they have. However, their expertise comes at a price, and having got a quote there myself earlier this year I can tell you it's pretty eye-watering.
The second issue is getting a recommendation. As I hinted in my earlier post, there are several bodyshops well known in Scimitar circles and they are both experienced and have niche reputations to protect, so you can be pretty certain you will get a good job. Quite a few folks have had their Bugs resprayed professionally, so you can try asking for their views.
And you will say, yes, but they're miles away... which brings me to point number three - how far are you prepared to travel to get the reassurance that comes with what I've said above? If you're only prepared to stay local, then you're going be unlucky, because the people we are talking about here don't grow on every local high street. I can think of maybe 6 or 7 recommendations at most I've garnered over the years for GRP and they're spread all over the country. If you want a good job, almost guaranteed, you've got to be prepared to travel. I'm in Sussex, and I took my car to Manchester. Lots of miles, hotel bills, fuel costs - but I've got a result that adds real value to the car.
If you say what part of the country you're in, or which parts you can get to easily (stay overnight with Aunt Mabel, save on a hotel) then we might be better able to suggest some names.
But before that, decide on what you want from the work. As I said before, if you want a blow over (jokes on a postcard please...) for eBay then your nearest and cheapest will be fine. If you want show quality, then start saving your pennies, and plan perhaps to wait until you can afford the real deal. And use that waiting time to keep talking to people, and get as much information and recommendations as you can.
Finally, talk to the bodyshops themselves. Ask them what sort of thing they've done before. Some of them won't even know what a Bug is, but if they've spent years on Lotus and TVR then a Bug will be in capable hands. Send them photos, or a walk-round video of your car. When they give you a price, ask what exactly that covers - will they take the glass out? How will they do the engine bay? What about any repairs that come to light during dismantling? What will they do if they break something when dismantling? It's your money you're spending, and you have every right to know how they're going to use it, so ask, ask, ask. Any decent pro guy won't be fazed in the slightest by this. If the bodyshop starts to get a bit iffy and uppity, simply walk away - you just saved yourself a wad of wasted money!
hi all,if you are able to do any repairs yourself to the body prior to painting it will make it cheaper,get the shell back to the gel coat,repair as required.you can apply the first few coats of primer [2pack]using a small foam paint roller,this iswhat I used to do it saves using the spray booth.you could prep the car in this manner as it will reduce the labour cost.i certainly wouldn't pay thousands to have a bug painted I would pay about £1200to£1500 tops inc paint.it cost me about £200 for paint materials. yours steve archer,[retired spray painter]
i think it's not so much what you pay (although that is clearly important) more who you pick to do the painting, they need to know what they are doing re fibreglass refinishing but also that they are genuinely interested in doing the job and not just going through the motions. the chap you have found locally sounds like he could be that guy, lets hope so and good luck jefferdp
hi vannin I agree to some extent ,but am I missing the plot.i thought the idea of owning aclassic car was to repair and maintain it yourself.i havnt done any sewing before ever ,but I have made my own sidescreens on the wifes sewing machine.you can practice painting on any piece of material you can still I believe get cellulose paint from a supplier in classic car weekly.just look at that chap rick shaw on youtube he will have a go at anything.dont forget these cars had a crap paint job when they were new, painted in an open shop no health and safety.so I say give it a go and don't be fleeced by anyone.
hi Steven and yes i agree about doing as much as you can yourself but as far as the actual spraying goes cellulose paint done the trick for decades but times have moved on and in my opinion for a hard wearing long lasting finish you need to use modern paint materials which rules the majority of home resprays due to the health and safety constraints
.i thought the idea of owning aclassic car was to repair and maintain it yourself.
Whoooaaaahhh!!! Is this a deliberate troll I espy, and very subtlely and cunningly inserted ? an expert job if I may say so
OK, well at the risk of hi-jacking this thread completely and invoking the Mods' ire, I'll take the bait...
There are surely as many 'ideas' for owning a classic car as there are owners of classic cars. Certainly the rich and famous don't usually do their own repair work. Quite apart from not having the time, (they're too busy making their millions), they certainly don't have the expertise to do satisfactory work on, what, 30 or more cars, no one of which is worth less than quarter of a million. Every now and again you come across people with huge collections - numbered in hundreds. For them the whole point of the exercise is to "collect" - the clue's in the name. They don't want to maintain the cars themselves, they don't usually even want to drive them. They just want to *have* them. I'm a bit like that myself, which is why I have 4 cars apart from the daily driver, and why my Bug has been off the road for two years waiting for me to maintain it.
At the the other end of the scale, I know two chaps who are totally dedicated to their one car each. One has a Matra Bagheera, and the other a Morris Minor (looks like an Eight but is actually the original Moggy Minor). In each case they found the car in a barn, in bits, in boxes etc, and each has spent literally 20 years and more lovingly recreating the original item, and latterly deservedly winning show awards such as at the NEC. So we are talking about seriously well restored cars.
In the middle is a very rich chap I know (amazing who you meet at the Riverview meet, which incidentally is now up and running again folks, details in the club mag), or at least a chap who had very rich parents, who bought him an Austin Healey 3000-6 BRAND NEW for his 17th birthday. He still has the car today, over 50 years later, and like the others it too wins awards. So he's not a collector, but neither is he a hands-on mechanic.
I'm sure others have their own unique reasons for being where they find themselves with their cars today...
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